At 07:58 PM 5/26/02 +1000, Roman Black wrote: >Dwayne Reid wrote: > > > > Glue is 2 Rs, 2 Cs and 2 diodes - the diodes could be eliminated if you > > were willing to ensure that the rest time between bits and bytes was long > > enough to completely charge or discharge the RC delays. I wouldn't bother > > - adding the diodes costs hardly anything. > > >I love these "cheap" challenges! I would be so daring >to suggest that you COULD do it with just one serial latch >chip (serial in parallel out shift reg) and two RC networks. >You only need one serial input line. > >Longest RC time delay -> latch reset >Shorter RC time delay -> data in >No RC time delay -> clock The problem with using just a cheap shift register is the limit on rise and fall times on the clock inputs - most require rise and fall times to be faster than 500 ns. As I mentioned in my earlier post, some higher end shift registers do have schmitt trigger inputs but those tend to cost much more than a cheap SR (4021) and 2 sections of a hex inverter schmitt trigger (4584 or 40106). dwayne -- Dwayne Reid Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax Celebrating 18 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2002) .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .- `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address. This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu