Each system of measurement has it's own advantages and disadvantages. Typically the electrical ECG systems fall down due to muscle activity causing interference and/or sweaty/hairy chests making the leads fall off!!! I've done many an ECG in my time and even with good filtering software, occasionally it's almost impossible to get a reasonable recording. And that's when at rest.... exercise makes it even worse.... Pulse-ox finger/ear probes are fine as long as there is a goodly blood flow happening. This isn't a problem when you're exercising normally!! The problem then is more physical ie the clip gets in the way. Of the top of my head, a reasonable third way would be to strap a simple microphone onto the chest over the heart. I wonder if a flat piezo disc would surfice.... I'd filter the output using a bandpass filter to remove extraneous noise (ie speech) and voila. Not sure if it's been done that way before but for simply testing the pulse rate a full ECG/pulse-ox solution appears overkill. Ben -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu