Hi Lawrence, you are very correct in guessing that receiver testing is done at VERY low amplitudes of the test signals. Normally your RF generator is a very heavy piece of equipment (both shielding-wise and price-wise) because it has to be able to do +20 dBm (100 milliwatt) and also -130 dBm (less than a picowatt) out of the same assembly. Also there are different methods for determining the quality of reception. This is easy for a receiver with an audio output: you listen to the speaker or connect a SINAD meter to the signal. For a cellphone it also works somewhat this way - you reduce the TX power and at some amplitude the unit will not receive any more... A digital receiver for Time standard signals sometimes has a lot longer observation and acquisition periods - not so easy. And also your "natural" RF signal should be blocked effectively, or your results are worth less than zilch... Hope this helps - more info available if not.... Greets Jochen Feldhaar DH6FAZ Lawrence Lile schrieb: > > How do people go about testing sensitivity of radio recievers? I've got a > batch of clocks that recieve a time code over WWV, and some of them "seem" > to be less sensitive than others. Some nights I'll see 5 out of 5 lock onto > the WWV signal, other nights only 1 out of 5. I don't have any calibrated, > predictable way of saying "Yes, this reciever is sensitive enough". Niether > me nor my supplier has a good way to do this. > > I am imagining a transmitter, suitably armored in a really good faraday cage > to prevent problems with the FCC, that I can turn way, way down in a > measurable way, and test whether the reciever modules can pick up the > signal. I think this would be quite difficult to build. A transmitter that > fakes a WWV signal and transmits 100 mW would be trivial to build, but how > about one that only transmits 0.01 microwatt? I could see building the > transmitter in a separate can, moving the 100mW signal through a coax to an > attenuator, then through another coax into another can holding my product. > > What is actually a reasonable level of power that a reciever in the US might > get from a transimtter in Colorado? It must be vanishingly small. > > Hmmmm..... > > -- Lawrence Lile > Sr. Project Engineer > Salton inc. Toastmaster Div. > 573-446-5661 Voice > 573-446-5676 Fax > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.