I'd be interested in the performance of such a thing. Of course you'd doubtless have hordes of Java purists railing at the non-standard aspects of anything crammed down into a PIC-sized space if it didn't meet Sun Java certification 100%... 8-) I'd bet a more workable approach would be a Java compiler that generated native PIC code. Yes, I know that's the whole point of Java, yadda yadda, but I have grave doubts as to the possibility of getting anything wpproximating a useful bytecode interpreter into that small a space, using that restrictive a set of memory "features". Dale -- "Curiosity is the very basis of education and if you tell me that curiosity killed the cat, I say only the cat died nobly." - Arnold Edinborough -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads