David After seeing this post I had a look at (FPP) and the TOPIC drawings, is that an error in the TOPIC2 & TOPIC (ICSP) drawings?, in that the Parallel Port pin 7 is connected by 10k resistor to pin 11. As in the setup for FPP define/test you use pin 3. Is this an error is is it corrected in software? Regards Art. ps I used you assci art to build my first programmer, 1990 was it that long ago? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr David J Tait" To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [PIC] Programming the 16F628 > > I have a noppp that I built for my 16f84a. > > To program a 16F628 using the NOPPP you can try the free software (FPP) > available here: > > http://www.man.ac.uk/~mbhstdj/piclinks.html > > If you use Windows run FPP and select the TOPIC setting. If you prefer > a Windows DOS box version use a command of the form "fpp -w0 -h8 -t10 > -f628 file.hex" or if you have a DOS-only machine use a command of the > form "fppdos -h8 -t10 -f628 file.hex". > > David > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu