>I just know that they start , idle and run well well >at high speed, all on fixed timing setting Do these not use a magneto? I suspect the pole pieces are shaped to give some automatic advance with speed change. See some discussion on this very early in this thread, before it reached "update 2". -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu