Hi Roman, Ah, you mean small in size, not in functionality :) The downside of the quick development is the executable size. You can get small utils, but you have to revert to WinApi again and end up in the same mess as with standard C++. There are some tutorials on google for getting small Delphi executables, as small as the 10k's C++ variants. Look at http://www.torry.net/samples_software.htm, a few screen down at 'How to make a Small Size application v.1.00'. Think it'll work in D6 also, is a fairly basic concept. Best regards, Claudio -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]Namens Roman Black Verzonden: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 5:10 PM Aan: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Onderwerp: Re: [OT]: Best small windows developer platform?? Bob Ammerman wrote: > > Roman, > > Your best bet is probably Delphi or VB. Although both are quite complex you > can get by with a small subset of their functionality at first. > > At this point I would try to avoid VB.Net and use VB6 instead, but YMMV. > > btw: what is this about a free 6.0 version of Delphi? Thanks everyone for the quick replies! Firstly, the Delphi 6.0 personal edition is now free at borland.com, I got mine from a cover CD of an Aussie computer mag. Its the full 6.0 personal that normally retails for about $70 USD. You have to get a password online, and they survey you (with possible spam later). I'll keep playing with it, but one thing putting me off is that it won't be easy to convert my existing tools from Turbo C to Delphi pascal, maybe with C++ builder there would be SOME hope of that, although i'm getting more discouraged by the day... For Claudio, you said Delphi is good for small simple tools, I made the tutorial which is basically a blank form with a load and save menu, the .exe is 500kb!! The same thing in turbo C is about 10kb. Or am I doing something wrong? I really would like to make small .exe apps that I can email to people etc, but I can't see how to make ANYTHING less than 1/2 a Mb!! :o( -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body