Thanks, Great info! So you could take that 8.25cm wire and wrap it into a coil and it would be just about as effective as leaving it straight? Can I use just normal stranded ~24AWG hookup wire for the antenna? Does the insulation around the wire matter? Thanks, Gary At 09:25 AM 5/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Antennas are a whole subject in itself. They come in all sizes, shapes, and >colors. Simply put, a monopole is a simple antenna which is a single piece >of wire, usually called a whip in most forms. Antennas should be tailored to >the frequency being used. Moreover, they need to be tuned to listen in for a >specfic frequency's wavelength or a function of it. Depending on the >frequency and type of usage, there are different antennas for different >applications. Higher frequencies tend to be more directional as you go up in >freq which creates the need for antennas that can transmit or listen in all >or specified directions. > >A 1/4 wave antenna works fine for most applications. Use this relation to >figure this out required length: C= lamda x V, where c= 3 x 10^8, V = >frequency, and lambda = wavelength. > >For example, a 900MHz device would need: > >3 x 10^8 / 900 x 10^6 = .333 meter wavelength. Dividing this by 4, only a >8.25 cm long antenna is needed. This can be a loop, coil, etc. > >Linx technologies has a good primer on antennas. >http://www.linxtechnologies.com/ldocs/pdfs/AN00500.pdf > >Also, they have an antenna site. >http://www.antennafactor.com/adocs/f_prod.html > >Hope this helps, >Michael > > > [Original Message] > > From: Gary Neal > > To: > > Date: 5/14/02 8:57:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [EE]: RF modules > > > > Guys, > > > > Recent discussion has peaked my interest especially since the > > relatively cheap Laipac modules were introduced. I'm looking at using the > > TLP434 modules outside in an open field. I'd like to get the most range > > that I can. At least 150' but would be nice to get to ~600'. > > Anyway, I have no experience with RF, specifically the > > antenna. Can someone shed some light on this? How do you know how long a > > wire to use? Do you just use a piece of wire? What gauge? Can it still > > have the insulation on it? What is "loop", "whip" style that I see listed > > on the Laipac page? Is the antenna different for the transmitter and >receiver? > > As you can see, I'm a novice at this antenna stuff. I don't > > really want a whole bunch of analytical antenna design mumbo jumbo. Be > > nice if someone would say something like "Ya, just connect a piece of >24AWG > > wire to the antenna that's about 3" long and that'll give you pretty good > > reception". Something like that. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gary Gary Neal Research Assistant - Drivetrain Technology Center Applied Research Laboratory - Penn State University PO Box 30 Research Building West North Atherton Street State College, PA 16801 814-863-5468 (phone) 814-863-6185 (fax) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.