On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 08:50:35PM +0100, Ken Evans wrote: >[El cheapo problems described] I can't help you there. But in an never ending quest to fill the information gap, I'd like to suggest that after you get started that you may want to upgrade your 16F84's. Check out this page: http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/16F628.html It talks about why 16F84s are obsolete. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu