Slightly unrelated, I found a clever power factor meter circuit that does not use a multiplier as such (it uses a switch based modulator instead). Has anyone built it or anything to add: http://archives.e-insite.net/archives/ednmag/reg/1994/042894/09di3.htm This could be turned around to measure power and power factor and it could use a PIC with 2 A/D channels. All the other parts together minus the current transformer should cost $5 or less in ones. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body