Note that the most current firmware for WARP13A is RedBack8 which was released in late April, 02. Among other things this fixes the bug associated with the PIC16F628. However, it does NOT provide the capability for programming the PIC18F parts. I think Jim at http://www.newfoundelectronics.com is taking a two prong approach to the PIC18F parts; a firmware upgrade using a PIC18F252 for the WARP-13A and a new WARP-18. I have been using the ICD 2 (Microchip DV164007) to program the PIC18F452. Some details on the ICD2 with a tel connector breakout to a breadboard are at http://www.phanderson.com/icd/icd2.html http://www.digikey.com has a few DV164007 units. I have a limited supply of PIC18F252s in a 28 terminal SP at http://www.phanderson.com/ordering.html Peter H Anderson, pha(at)phanderson.com, http://www.phanderson.com --- Edson Brusque wrote: > Hello Fabio, > > >Someone knows any programmer that supports the PIC > 18Fxxx devices ??? > > Warp-13 at www.newfoundelectronics.com > www.phanderson.com/warp-13.html > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics