> I've always done an external PUP on input pins. This might sound rather > dumb, Yup. > but if you enable the weak pup on PORTB, can you actually see them > pulled EXTERNAL to the pin (as in using a logic probe), or is it just > internal? THINK about it. What use would an internal pullup be that isn't reflected on the input pin? If the input is high, you want the bit to read 1. If the input is low, what would you want it to do? If it reads 0 then the pullup has no effect. If it reads 1, then the input is useless. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads