This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C1F232.947EA960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The attached GIF is virus free. The following is a response from a friend in Australia who is well acquainted with data cabling. RM _______________________________________________ Well I guess it is my turn on this one. Remember the days of Telecom at K'rd, (can't spell NZ any more) Pair 1 Telephone Pair 2,3 Ethernet Pair 4 Appletalk The standard for telecommunications wiring is AS/NZS3080. This calls for connectors to be wired to the original American standards T568A & B. A is preferred. B was adopted by AT & T and was introduced/used by early adopters of the structured cabling system (suckers). Cabling is always wired onto the MDF/IDF sequentially, ie pair 1 on the left. 568B is useful if you want to mix phone and data on the same cable, as I did at Lincolne Scott Consultants for a couple of years. The Ethernet receive is connected to pins 3 & 6 and therefore won't be so hard on a mis connected phone. (Well that's how it seems to me.) The system was 10base2 and therefore isn't a working example as you requested. I discovered as new 10/100 NICs were introduced into the system that (the NICs) have a nasty habit of shorting unused pairs to ground. This does not bode well for sharing the media and cause the manufacture of a number of specialist fly leads. It would also not be a good thing for power supplies that wanted to use the "spare" pairs. The splitting of circuits over two pairs, as required to make manufacturing ends easy is, as you state, an abominable practice. Cable transmission characteristics are very dependent on Near and Far end crosstalk (NEXT, FEXT) between the pairs and 'bad" patch leads would destroy this balance completely. I have just inspected a cheap ($3.00 AFAIR) patchlead bought from the local electrical wholesaler and it is wired 568A. This is my experience. At a produce forum, selling Zero BER testing, I saw a 50m Cat 5 cable that had been mutilated over a 500mm length, all pairs separated, wired broken and rejoined, etc. that still passed the Cat 5E testing. It appears that Ethernet will work over bad cables... I suspect that you may have been to the same show as I know that it was taken to NZ. If not .. well that is what I saw. Somewhere in the discussion was the requirement for Gigabit to use all pairs, it does. Pardon me if I'm boring you, but the transmission for Gigabit uses each pair in duplex achieving the 1000 MBit result over a smaller bandwidth per pair that 100MBit. Somehow you really can get a quart out of a pint pot! I have wired my house, generally 3 outlets per room, 2 x network, 1 x phone, and the home network operates at 100 MBit apart from the firewall box (Smoothwall). Jadon (my eldest) has provided a file server packed with 80GByte HDD and the Optus Cable internet connection. Every person has their own PC and counting the infrastructure and "toys" the pets are covered as well. My power bill is far too high but we can share movies easily. The network wiring components came from an office refurbishment where the cable and the outlets were to be thrown away, I was standing at the bin and got 90% of what I needed. Australian houses are generally constructed with the 75 mm face of noggins vertical ( 75 x 50mm) and therefore dropping a cable down the wall is child's play (Kaleb is very good at it). I don't think that cabling standards have anything to do with future proofing (as suggested below) but I don't know why 4 pairs were chosen. RJ10 or RJ11 for phones? RJ 11 appears to be a 4 wire plug but a quick Google on the subject revealed that there is some confusion on the pair count. Personally I call a 2 pair plug RJ11 in my specifications. 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