Hello Wild, > Just a few questions. > 1. any long extrnal leads to/from the box? Yes, there are long leads. I will try to make it a shielded cable. > 2. how are you using the clear pins on the 74ls164 They are directly tied to vdd. > I have used large caps plus diode's in the past to supress spikes on > 74lsxx's the cap acting like the /MCLR and the diode to dicharge cap ready > for next switch on. Sorry but I don't understand where to put the caps and diodes. > some early ttl data books had lots of info on this type of problem. Mmm I don't have any TTL books, but will try to find something on other books. Thanks, Brusque ----------------------------------------------------------------- Edson Brusque C.I.Tronics Lighting Designers Ltda Researcher and Developer Blumenau - SC - Brazil Say NO to HTML mail www.citronics.com.br ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body