If he's been on the PIClist, he's hired. Unless, of course, he is on it because he can't figgur out how to unsubscribe! --lawrence ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean H. Breheny" To: Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [OT]: Job Interviews > At 02:53 PM 4/25/02 -0500, you wrote: > >All very true in every respect. Also all a bit much to ask of a two-year > >undergrad intern candidate, who will probably be a little awestruck and > >probably pretty nervous is it is when you ask the question. The OP is > >looking for a college student (read "lab grunt"), not a chief of > >engineering. And the poor grunt is 99% likely not going to know anything > >about post office loops, shunt testers or any of the rest. That comes > >with experience, which said starry-eyed applicant will lack. > > Unless, of course, said starry-eyed applicant has been reading the PICLIST > for a while :-) > > > > >Just my own humble opinion. > > > >Dale > >-- > >"Curiosity is the very basis of education and if you tell me that > >curiosity killed the cat, I say only the cat died nobly." > > - Arnold Edinborough > > > > > >On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Peter L. Peres wrote: > > > > > The electrically correct answer was given by Ray Gardiner but the purpose > > > of the question is to find out what the candidate would do. Asking for a > > > ruler is legit. Assumption that the mV scale is not accurate can be made. > > > You could ask for a ruler and just measure 60 mm of wire and crimp with > > > +/-0.75 mm precision. You could say that you need a 4 wire shunt for this > > > (you don't really) and show how to do it. You could ask whether there is a > > > more accurate ohmmeter available. You could ask whether there is a lower > > > value precision resistor available. You could notice that the current must > > > be switched for short times in the 10W resistor to avoid creep and that it > > > should be checked before and after since it is used at max spec power. > > > > > > You could say that this job is best done by buying a $5000 shunt-testing > > > instrument or a $5 'post office loop' (this is an old shunt used by > > > British phone technicians I think - I got it from a book, not sure about > > > the name). You could ask how many shunts will eventually be needed, and > > > whether they could be outsourced if many (and why). > > > > > > The question is not a math skills test, in that there may be several > > > answers, and maybe giving the elaborate and correct electrical solution is > > > not the answer that will give the highest mark. Seeing 'sideways' and a > > > certain amount of nonlinear thinking is the kind of skill that makes > > > co-workers co-workers and not co-drags imho. > > > >-- > >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > >email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body