At 07:19 PM 4/24/02 +0300, you wrote: >Imho color blindness is not a handicap in this problem because the colors >used on el cheapo resistors (***) are *that* kind of colors. A DVM with a >fixed plug-in contact pair is indispensable. There's a nice project for a student. Take a DVM with RS-232 port, Visual Basic or some other similar programming language and make it pop up a big font resistance value and color code pictorial of a resistor. You tell it whether the resistor is a 1% or 5% (additional tolerances optional) and the system does the rest. Personally I just look at the resistor and think 4.7K (or 4K7 if I'm having brioche and/or cappuccino). You just have to avoid designing in those few values that are confusing. Best regards. Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com 9/11 United we Stand -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.