>> For Jay >> >> Try ExpressPCB, free download. > >But doesn't do schematics, only boards, and is only for use with their >service. Just FYI. I use them but it's not portable, if you care about >that. Right! I have used ExpressPCB's service and it works great. It's all I need for board layout. But I have a rotten schematic program and would like to find a good one I don't have to spend so much time screwing around with. I do not need board layout (I like ExpressPCB). I do not need simulation. Although if I have to pay for layout and simulation to get a good schematic program, I will. (Multisim's interface looks nice). I would like to find an easy-to-use, Windows intuitive, schematic software where I don't have to make every chip I use. Jay -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads