An opamp no longer has the characteristics of an opamp when power is removed from it. The internal diodes and resistors which are pointed to the V+ rail are now pulling the + input somewhere towards ground and loading anything on the input to ground. It looks like your circuit is behaving quite normally. Rick Donovan Parks wrote: > Hello, > > When I connect V+ and V- both to ground to effectively turn off the op. amp, > the voltage between the resistors in the voltage divider is 1.3V (measured > with an X10 probe and paid more attention this time). I am indeed using a > R-R op. amp that can handle inputs close to both the positive and negative > rails. The reference voltage is connected to the non-inverting input on the > amplifier. > > What I can't figure out is why the voltage between the resistors in the > voltage divider is 1.3V (I when the op. amp has V+ and V- are ground. > > 200k 200k > +5V --/\/\/\----/\/\/\---ground > | > | 100k > ------/\/\/\------ non-inverting input of op. amp. > > I would expect the voltage between the two 200k resistors to be 2.5V as the > op. amp should draw almost no current, but instead it is at 1.3V. Setting > V+ and V- to ground has somehow caused the op. amp to draw more current (I > have measured this the current into the op. amp to be 11uA which accounts > for the lost voltage). Why? > > Even more interesting, is that when I have V+ at 5V and V- at ground. If I > turn the +5V supply off and then on, the current being drawn by the op. amp > decreases from around 11uA when I first turn on the power to 0uA (less than > my DMM can measure) in about 30sec. Does an op. amp. have a "warm up" time? > Is the results I'm seeing expected? How is this "warm up" time connected > with my voltage divider. > > Note: that the problem is easily solved by replacing the 200K resistors with > 25K resistors, but I wish to understand why this is happening. > > Regards, > Donovan Parks > > > I'm not sure from your description where the 1.7 volt is I thought the > > ref was connected to V= or V- But if you expect to use an an op amp on a > > single supply and have inputs close to ground you must use an op amp > > who's input range common mode goes to ground most of them don't check > > the common mode input range in their spec's > > > > PC > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.