I have not used Spread Spectrum, but I have studied it for a few applications that didn't pan out. As far as bandwidth efficiency, I can see some improvement, but a great cost in complexity. A digital bit stream has a SinX/X bandwidth. We allocate bandwidth by frequency so it comes in rectangular blocks. A SinX/X curve does not fit well in a rectangular block. If you allocate a block big enough to hold the SinX/X then there is significant under-utilized bandwidth in the allocated block. DSSS fills a rectangular bandwidth block better. Also when there are a few too many users for the available band a Spread Spectrum system does not fail catastrophically by sitting a new user on top of an existing user. Instead all users begin to suffer a rising noise level and service may not be good, but may be acceptable for the short term overload. GPS is a good use for SS. The satellites don't have to keep track of which of them is visible where to negotiate channel space. And you don't have to give each one its own channel. If you have so many satellites visible that they start to interfere with each others reception then you must have lots of pseudorange data to feed into you computation. You will get a good position fix from not-so-good data, if you have enough data. {soapbox bold} What really raises my hackles is using SS for computer clocks, or clock modulation to pass emissions tests. The important point about clock modulation that most people don't realize is that it does nothing to reduce the actual interference that customers will see in the field. It is a clever scheme to circumvent government regulations and nothing more. If a milliwatt of energy at exactly 60MHz will cause a certain amount of rectification in an audio pre-amp, smearing that same energy from 59MHz to 61MHZ will cause almost exactly the same disruption. Few of the potential victims of EMI have any way to make such fine distinctions in frequency. The only real solution to the real problem is to reduce the energy radiated, or shift it in frequency by a very large amount, like at least a factor of two or three. I work with EMI problems all the time in oceanographic equipment, keeping digital noise out of sensitive sonar front ends. For me the FCC regulations are irrelevant. There is nothing like an inch thick steel pressure case and a thousand meters of seawater for shielding! The only EMI requirements I have to meet are Mother Natures, and she doesn't care about peaks on a spectrum analyzer. When a switching supply or a microprocessor at one end of my instrument is radiating and causing rectification in a sensitive amp at the other end modulating the interfering source is not going to help at all. The FCC regulations are not obstacles to be overcome. They are tools to help solve real problems. When finding ways to comply with the rules, you need to realize that rules are there to prevent problems and simply complying to the exact letter of the rule may still leave the underlying problem unsolved. The FCC rules sometimes need some common sense interpretation. Unless we designers use our common sense, the FCC will have to rewrite the rules to eliminate loopholes like clock modulation, which will make the rules more complicated and restrictive than they currently are. {/bold /soapbox} Sherpa Doug > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean H. Breheny [mailto:shb7@CORNELL.EDU] > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:33 PM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [OT]:Spread Spectrum Efficiency for Continuous signals > > > Hi Doug, > > I'd like to hear more. I have no practical experience with SS, but the > theoretical arguments that I've heard seem strong enough that > I believed > that there was some benefit (especially with regard to more closely > approaching the theoretical channel capacity). Where does > reality depart > significantly from this? > > Thanks, > > Sean > > At 02:07 PM 4/12/02 -0400, you wrote: > >Spread spectrum is much more hype than real benefit. > Frequency hopping > >is good to prevent eavesdropping. Direct Sequence spreading > helps you > >hide in the noise. Both are useful for military > applications, but have > >limited ligitimate civilian use. > > > >If you had four channels of space with a varying number of users, > >sometimes more than four, who couldn't agree on who should use what > >space when, then spread spectrum helps to arbitrate the use > of bandwith. > > When too many users occupy the band everybody's signal to > noise ratio > >degrades, and everybody suffers equally. > > > >I can stay on this soapbox for longer than anybody wants to read... > > > >Sherpa Doug > > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads