Hi, just a quickie: Has anyone had a look at the firmware for the = picstart+ in a disassembler, or had a good poke around inside to see how = it works? I'm interested in how the software (mplab) controls the hardware, and = the possible scope for writing a custom firmware image to allow = programming of non microchip devices (if the hardware is able to support = them) -- Jon Baker "Waiting for the criticisms regarding reverse engineering somebody elses = work..." -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.