I'm having trouble with a circuit. 5V regulator, PIC, and a reed relay. When I run it from a 9v source, it draws ~20 mA-40mA. It can run "forever" without problems. When I run it from my car electric system (12v battery, alternator ~ 14v) it gets very hot. The regulator gets hot, but nothing terrible. The PIC gets noticably warm. Pressing your finger on it for > 5 seconds causes you to feel pain. I'm just shooting in the dark, here, but is it possible that the regulator can't deal with the "noisy" input, and the resulting output is causing the pic problems? -Steve -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads