I once saw a project for a level sensor using a piece of ribbon cable with the ends sliced at an angle. When you think about it, this is really a very neat solution - Easy to terminate to the board, many stages of level sense available, discrete. My advice to a hobbyist would be use an off the shelf low voltage power supply, e.g. a wall wart at say 12V, and try to get some valves that run from 12V too. That way, someone else has done the 'scary mains isolation' bit for you. Regards, Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@mitvma.mit.edu] On Behalf Of Reginald Neale > Sent: 28 March 2002 09:29 > To: PICLIST@mitvma.mit.edu > Subject: Re: [PIC]: Automated whirlpool tub ... > > > Neil: > > Have you had these suicidal impulses for long? :-) > > I'm sure you are aware of the huge safety issues. Isolating > all your line voltage switching circuitry from the control > circuitry is not trivial. Relays are good, but there's > creepage, leakage, physical barriers... > > Even for the level sensing, it's probably not a good idea to > get your voltages wet. Aside from the safety issues, output > from electrodes in contact with the water/chemical solution > may not be stable. For level sensing, GEMS makes some > float-type modules that are very reliable and inherently isolated. > > What does the existing control system use for temperature > sensing? You can probably adapt that same sensor to your new circuit. > > Reg Neale > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > > > ***************************************************************** > This email has been checked by the altohiway e-Sweeper Service > ***************************************************************** > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads