While we are on the subject of spurious claims, here, for your inspection, is US PAtent number 06025810 http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06025810__ , "Hyper Light-speed Antenna". How this got past the patent examiners I'll never know. However, it is novel, if it worked it would be useful, and I can say for sure that nobody "skilled in the art" would think it was obvious, so it passes all three tests to get a patent! -- Lawrence Lile Sr. Project Engineer Salton inc. Toastmaster Div. 573-446-5661 Voice 573-446-5676 Fax -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body