This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F5D6F9AB6B14C8DE4843AD59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know that! My ISP have it and it is OK They use KAV BUT! There are a lot of them which do not have etc etc etc... See ya... "M. Adam Davis" wrote: > Actually, it's a very useful and desirable setup for companies, > corporations and even ISP's. It's not anywhere close to censorship, > unless you convince the virus companies to start adding certian phrases > to their software (which is unliklely). > > In all of those cases there are benefits for the person running the > server, for instance most new viruses send copies of not only > themselves, but documents from the user's hard drive. These extra > emails can quickly clog an email server, especially in a large > organization, nevermind the spreading/destruction of potentially > sensitive information. > > User education only goes so far. > > Having to administer a network, I've had to deal with 3 of the top five > current viruses listed on antivirus.com . I would welcome email server > scanning of viruses, since they all come from email, and I have a > chronic problem with users that forward everything. I don't control the > mail server right now (outsourced) though, so I'm using a corporate > virus scanner which the user's can't change and I can control remotely - > about the best solution so far, as they are always up to date. > > Besides, censorship is so time consuming that it's not cost effective. > It's easy to censor something that has limited information (such as a > newspaper - there are only so many articles per day) but you really > can't control the distribution of email, web sites, etc since they are > dynamic and there is simply too much information. Any rules based > system can be defeated. Even the lists of 'objectionable' web sites are > not good, and there are easy ways to get around every program that > implements such a system. > > So, in essence, it's easier, better, cheaper, etc to make a policy, > educate the employees (or customers) and enforce the policy using normal > methods. People who try to control information (and therefore people) > are going to be constantly frustrated. > > Virus protection, however, encompasses such a small space that it's > relatively easy to do electronically. > > -Adam > > John Ferrell wrote: > > >Virus scanning at the server level would be an early step towards censorship > >of all traffic! > > > >Not a desirable attribute. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Dale Botkin" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:26 AM > >Subject: Re: [OT]: Virus > > > > > >>On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Milan Pavlica YU7AEC wrote: > >> > >>>Is there any chances that PIC mail list server get those KAV for > >>>scanning emails? > >>> > >>No. Not unless, of course, you want to write one that runs on an IBM > >>mainframe under VM, and then get a job at MIT and convince your boss to > >>let you install it. Should only take 15 years or so. > >> > >>>If Admin is interested, maybe all of us can donate to buy such product > >>>to save us (our time, projects, HDD data etc etc etc)?!?!?!? > >>> > >>A much simpler solution would be for all Windows users to take the basic > >>precaution of using antivurus software, and NOT RUNNING UNSOLICITED > >>EXECUTABLES rceived via email. This was an old virus sent as a .BAT file, > >>there's really no reason anyone should have been fooled. Virus scanning > >>on the current list server simply isn't going to happen. > >> > >>Dale > >> > >>-- > >>http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > >>email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > >> > >> > > > >-- > >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > >email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body --------------F5D6F9AB6B14C8DE4843AD59 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=koi8-r; name="mpavlica.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Milan Pavlica YU7AEC Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mpavlica.vcf" begin:vcard n:Pavlica;Milan x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:SuperSonic Systems adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:mpavlica@ptt.yu title:Chief fn:Milan Pavlica end:vcard --------------F5D6F9AB6B14C8DE4843AD59-- -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body