Hi all, Here's another hand held portable programmer to add to the collection. Does most of the mid range PICs (12S 12P 14C 14F 16C - 16F when available) and a few serial EEPROMs, can be used stand alone, ICSP, 32K storage memory, and has the experimenters interface that hooks into my graphical Windows simulators. Desktop powered with a standard wall wart. Portable powered with 2 small AAA cells. http://www.bubblesoftonline.com/prog50.gif The kit should be available as soon as I get some parts off back order. -- Best regards Tony mICros http://www.bubblesoftonline.com mailto:sales@bubblesoftonline.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.