> The emulator works ok. Maybe the programmer is not doing his work. If the emulator works, then you've got to be close. Things to check, in order: 1 - Make sure the emulator is working with target board power and clock. With the real chip: 2 - Do a VERIFY on the chip to make sure it's programmed correctly. 3 - Check the oscillator mode and make sure the oscillator is oscillating. Make sure you set the scope proble to high impedence. A "normal" impedence probe can kill crystal oscillations. 4 - Check the power, and make sure you have brownout detect disabled if using less than the normal 5 volts. ******************************************************************** Olin Lathrop, embedded systems consultant in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, olin@embedinc.com, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body