It works! It works! ;-)))))) Way to go Dave, it puts out -17.3V into an open load (-15.3 at 1.5-2.0ma load). This generates the a great looking contrast without even adjusting it. I used a regular 232N and 1.0uF caps and tiny little RadioShack 1N914/4148 glass diodes. Thanks again, it works great. ;-D Plus, the added benefit of the 232 running off of a regulated supply keeps the contrast looking good until the 9V battery is just about dead. michael brown Dave D the genius wrote: > If you'd rather roll your own charge pumper using more readily available > parts, the attached diagram shows an approach using a MAX232A RS-232 > interface chip that'll give you about -18V unloaded. You can feed a > trimpot from that, to adjust the LCD contrast voltage. If you use a > MAX232 instead of a MAX232A, make all the capacitors ten times bigger to > compensate for the slower switching frequency. This design operates off > the +5V supply, which I assume you're regulating; and that eliminates > having to deal with a battery voltage that could be anywhere from 9V > (new) down to about 6V (discharged). > > The MAX232A is a very useful chip. The classical way of looking at it > is as advertised: it's an RS-232 interface chip with a built-in charge > pump for generating the interface voltages. An alternate way of looking > at it is a general-purpose charge pump chip that can generate +/- 8-10V > from a +5V supply, and which also happens to have some built-in RS-232 > I/O, just in case you need it. > > They're real handy for generating +/- voltage for "funky" analog stuff. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body