Dave Dilatush wrote: > > Roman Black wrote... > > >Ha ha! :o) Thanks guys, well I did say it was > >done in a hurry, and no obviously not tested. > >But i am curious as to what you see is the > >problem with it? That it won't oscillate or that > >Q1 (top) won't turn off? Or am I really thick > >today and missing something? :o) > > What's missing, Roman, is that you skipped a crucial step in designing > things like this: a walk-through of its operation, looking at the > voltages and currents that occur in each state to verify (1) that they > are what you need them to be and (2) that they are physically possible. > > Had you done this, you would have discovered (referring to the redrawn > diagram below) that when Q2 turns on, the circuit node connecting the > emitter of Q1, the left end of L1, and the cathode of D1 cannot possibly > go more negative than [Vbe(Q1) - Vcesat(Q2)]. In order to function, and > deliver current to the -15V output, this node would have to go down to > -15.7 volts to forward-bias D1, and that it clearly cannot do because it > would require the collector of Q2 to go negative down to -15 volts which > would destroy Q2. > > In other words, this circuit "fails by inspection" and a very brief > inspection, indeed, is all it should take to confirm that it doesn't do > the job. > > Dave D. > > +9v------+----------------+ > In | | > | R2 > Q1 C | > NPN B---------------+ > E | > | | > | C Q2 > +---L1--+---+---B NPN > | | | E > | | | | > - D1 C1 R1 | > ^ 0.1uF | | | > | | | | > Gnd------|-------+---+----+ > | | | > | 10uF C2 ~ 15v > | | ^ Zener > | | | > -15v------+-------+--------+ > Out > Thanks Dave! Very nice looking circuit there too. :o) R1 adjust (even a trimpot) should still give a decent constant current control and the thing should oscillate well and be pretty efficient even with a flat 9v battery. :o) -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body