When they asked me, I recommended SolidWorks, but my first choice was
Autocad Inventor.  They chucked 50 G's into a Pro-E Rathole, however.  Now,
since so much money has been spent, no one is allowed to say anything bad
about Pro-E.  That's my honest opinion.

--Lawrence

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Marshall" <john@afbengineering.com>
To: "Lawrence Lile" <llile@toastmaster.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [EE]: Protel


> So...Has your shop given any thought to SolidWorks. We use it here, and
though
> it's not 'easy', it doesn't do easy things. Solid modeling is quite the
grand
> endeavour. I've never used Pro-E, but I know of some who do. Problem is,
it's
> liking trying to get an 'honest' opinion from someone who just dropped 50k
on
> one of those fine German automobiles, (or Swedish, or Japanese, or
> whatever)...no one wants to admit how badly they overpaid for what they
got.
> JohnM
>
> Lawrence Lile wrote:
>
> > Oh yes, Pro-E is among the most evil things ever to be concocted by
human
> > nor devil.
> >
> > Just this morning, as my mechanical compatriot got the "Blue Screen of
> > Death" once again, after not saving his files for an hour once again, he
> > remarked to me that Pro-E would not load my 3D board layout, because it
> > could not create some internal datum plane or other.
> >
> > Pro-E has the most convuluted system of cascading menus ever developed,
when
> > a simple two-key command can suffice in AutoCad, Pro-E requires two
dozen
> > mouse clicks for the smallest task.  A 3D box that can be created in
AutoCad
> > in six clicks probably will not regenerate in Pro-E, requireing you to
"Fix
> > Model".  Once you start on a process in Pro-E, there is generally no
> > stopping, you have to finish, then delete the part you just made.  No
Undo
> > key, often no cancel key.  Menus for the same thing often have two
different
> > interfaces, which will pop up one after another.  Sometimes things
> > dissappear for no apparent reason.  Cursors change, never change back.
> > Imagine trying to draw something with a "NOT" symbol as a cursor, a
circle
> > with a slash through it, where the hot spot of the cursor is behind the
> > symbol.  I do that every day.  Pro-E runs fine one minute, the next
minute
> > it's got the slows, every menu takes a minute to load onto the screen.
> > Usually a session like this results in the blue screen of death after an
> > hour.  My boss can bring up Pro-e, wiggle the mouse pointing at a part,
and
> > get the blue screen of death.
> >
> > Pro-E will not import any 3D file that can be read or written by an
AutoDesk
> > product, by design, except IGES which Autodesk charges extra for, and
STL.
> > In ProE, STL files come in like ghosts, you can see them, but they don't
> > have any surfaces or features you can use.  Thus, I have to draw the
board
> > AGAIN in Pro-E, after drawing it once already in AutoCad.
> >
> > I guess all this software experience looks good on a resume.
> >
> > --Lawrence
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> > >
> > > eek! Pro-E! More evil!
> > >
> > > -Bob
> > >
> >
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