> > - To take out the toner when the pcb is finished it is much > > easier to use > > acetone (industrial or even of the kind the women use for removing the > > paint from the nails : more expensive) than grinding the pcb. > > Acetone and similar hydrocarbon solvents will break down the pcb resin of > many glass and paper composites. That surface will then invite > contaminants, > including whatever you washed off with it - a good reason why all the > packaged transfer systems suggest scrubbing. Never have had any problem (and when the transfer fails, I clean the board with acetone and let's start again !) > > - To remove the paper it is better (according to my experience) to use very > > hot water instead of cold water. In a couple of minutes the paper peels-off > > without having to touch at it. > > I think the cold water is intended to "set" the toner by cooling > it rapidly. > But I'm sure hot water removes the paper better. I have done > cold, then hot. Toner melts at a temperature much higher than hot water. Hot water helps the paper to peel-off. Never had any problem with hot water (hot water = 50 oC) > The blue stuff seems to be pretty reliable also, but nothing beats Advanced > circuits doing them 2 up for $28 US with silk and mask with real through > holes. Nobody on tis list can set up to do an iron on board for the > equivalent cost in time. Me yes. This means : 1) I am very fast :-), or 2) I am very bad paid :-( Decide for yourself > I figured the last iron on board I did, at about 1.25 x 2 cost me about > the equivalent of $750 in billable time. Now I will only do this method > when I have nothing else to do. To get 750$ in billable time I must work for more than one week :-( Note : iron method is the only one which allows me to start a board friday evening and get it working sunday morning ! There is not a such fast service in Internet. Joan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu