Try this....... 555 in astable mode. Use a port pin to drive the 555 enable pin. Connect = all the cathodes from the LEDs to the astable output. Enable off, output = low, LED on full. Enable on, output astable, LED brightness controlled = by astable duty cycle.=20 The 555 can source this direct aswell. Hope this helps Ben -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu