At 09:02 AM 3/6/02 +1100, you wrote: >I've never seen this approach with 78xx regs - interesting. I've only >seen it with 317 types. It's valid- look at the internal schematic for the 7805, here's a pointer to one, and analyze what happens for Vout > Vin. http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/MC7800-D.PDF It's only a concern under the following conditions: Substantial capacitance on the output (but if you need it, you need it) AND either A) A very heavy load on the unregulated supply such that the current from the resulting dv/dt at switch-off could cause excessive current through the regulator. This is rather an unlikely scenario. Or B) There is some possibility that the input could be short- circuited and there is no series diode. This is more likely where you'd use it. If there is a bridge or polarity protection diode, it's not a concern unless there is a possibility that it could be shorted on the *other* side of the diode. Not all data sheets cover this issue, so it's a good point. Like an input capacitor, it's wasteful to put it in there if it is unnecessary. (BTW, on the previous post, 470uF is about 10 times too small for 50/60Hz mains filter for typical 1A supply, also the ripple current rating will not likely be high enough to be reliable). Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com 9/11 United we Stand -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.