> I apologize for re-opening this thread....but I am trying to > put together a back-up strategy for a small (6 station) peer > to peer windows network > 1. HDD's seem most logical to me - lowest cost per Gig, fast > read and write cycles. Swappable drives in arrays such as RAID > seem to make even more sense - pull the drive, put in a fire > box and insert the alternate drive. Yet these seem to be less > available and the cost seems the same as it was 5 yrs ago - > indicating that this is less than popular. It's very popular -- for larger servers. They are much less cost sensitive than desktop PCs because the reliability needs are _much_ higher. And when you are dealing in terabytes of data the overall system design outweighs costs of single drives. Personally, I would be concerned about connector system wear if a spare drives were being removed & inserted on a daily basis. I don't think that the RAID disk chassis were built for this many drive exchanges. > 2. Tape must be less reliable and is definitely slower. Plus > there is the added cost of consumables. I am finding that many > large networks are backed up on tape - perhaps because the > economics of buying many tapes is better than buying many hard > drives. Many small networks are backed up on tape, and there are > still many offerings in this area. Tape offers compact, robust, stable, removable storage. Due to historical incremental development, there is software to support the concept of off-site backup on to this media. > Is there a technical reason that tape is still so widely used, > and am I missing something? It's reasonably inexpensive and known stable for commercial time scales (5-10 years) when stored unattended. This may change because low cost disk drives are now in the same cost per gigabyte of tape cartridges. But they will be more fragile and reliability after multi-year storage is an unknown (assuming the RAID array still exists). Products to automate disk drive swapping don't exist yet -- automated tape libraries do. Tape drives have always offered backwards compatability. In part to allow reading archival tapes that were written on prior generation tape drives. And don't discount social inertia -- since tape has been used in the past, people will continue to use it. Managers of large enterprises aren't real happy with ripping everything out and changing things all at once; even if the technology is better. On the product side, you can get automated tape libraries that have several tape drives and dozens to hundreds of tapes with a robot to load & unload the tape drives. They are expensive, but not nearly as pricey as a human operators on 24x7 service. With the appropriate software, the cost of the library can be shared over many servers backing up dozens to hundreds of disks. > What really is the medium of choice for back-up? I think a layered approach. Details depend on a trade-off between cost and vulnerability. Like insurance -- the less risk you assume, the more it's going to cost you. RAID arrays protect against single device failure for short periods of time. But they store only a single snap-shot of the users' data. If a user corrupts a file, its content is lost. There is no "yesterday's version". And they are on-site and suseptible to catastrophic failure (fire, flood, earthquake, etc). Tape backups, by using simple rotation and extraction scheme, are easy to generate a multi-copy off-site library (every day for a couple weeks, every Friday for a couple months, every month-end for several years, and year-end forever). This can meet the legal requirements for a business to keep financial and other required records for specified retention periods. If the amount of data is low enough, CD-R or CD-RW (now) and DVD-R or DVD-RW (future) may become cost effective, viable options for backup. Lee -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body