You guys almost got my eyes wet this time. I used to have a couple of Dyna/Pert DIP Inserters that were controlled by PDP8's. When these became obsolete around 1980, I sold off the machines for parts and nobody wanted the PDP's. I gave them away, and wish I had them now. The photo's at one of the links at the PDP site really got me choked up. Thanks for coaxing the good memories.... Chris -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body