Ah, the 'little-by-little' method. I had to resort to this only once to handle multiple pins that wouldn't cooperate. Thanks for all the help. I combined several of your tips and saved everything! I found that a combination of a 'good tip seal' to get the bulk of the solder out, the 'wiggled sucker' to get trapped solder from hidden behind the pin areas, plus the 're-solder-and-try-again' method to make it all work. I even used wick successfully on a couple of the more difficult pins. Having precise control of my tip temperature was key. It's interesting to note that I was removing these chips from SCR Phase-Angle boards. I used one of these boards and a thermocouple to set my tip temp precisely. Combining this with all the coaching, I am sure is why all the pads are still attached to the boards. This experience has me thinking of designing my own tool from scratch...Hmmm..... Thanks again to all. Chris > Chris, > > If you do not need to save the pic then easiest way is to cut > Pic's pins from top then remove them one by one. If you need > To save the pic too you are going to need 2 soldering irons. > DO this > > solder all pins together on both sides have some one > ready to pull the pic from the other side. > take both soldering irons and start heating both sides > at the same time and move your irons back an forward let > the person slowly pull it. I was able to remove 40 pins pics > without any damage. You need to do this fast > > > Andre Abelian > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.