I'm trying to program a PIC16F874 in circuit with a picstart plus(firmware ver. 2.30). It is not letting me program it. I have read the different problems on PIC FAQ and how programming the code protect first into the config bits only will solve this. That's not working for me either. Anybody experienced this problem and how did you work around it? I would appreciate any help you could give me. Thanks Richard McElroy CST Corporation 450 S. Cips St. Watseka, IL 60970 815-432-6859 ext. 775 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.