Something I've not seen discussed on this thread (yet) to consider: Most data loss is the result of intentional user initiated actions. While the data loss is not necessarily intentional, I know so many people who were just "cleaning up their C: drive" and ended up wiping out entire subdirectories (including the O/S many times) and were left with nothing. Even a six figure EMC disk array doesn't protect against that ... there is simply no substitute for permanent (or at least semi-permanent) backups which are separate from the live data. Even having a second hard drive that you synchronize with nightly leaves this area exposed ... ex: user deletes file, synchronization process runs nightly for 3-4 days (deleting file from synchronized media), finally user realizes they deleted file and want it back. Seen it too many times. -- Mitch -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads