Have an '87 Buick Park Avenue we'd like to diagnos a problem on. It would really be helpful if we had a "scan tool", however they are stupidly expensive. I've done some searches and it looks like the data that comes out of the ECM is simplly serial data at 8192bps at 12V voltage levels. Does anybody have more info on this? Is the output text or is it just a bunch of hex digits? If so anybody have a mapping for which hex digits mean what? For now I'll be using a PC laptop but it sounds like this might be something I can build with a PIC if I can find this info. Thanks for any help. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads