> LOL!! Where do you find this stuff?? It was a link that John Marshall posted in the MDC1200 thread http://www.fuelless.com/ > I wonder if this device would give off enough heat to keep > my garage warm while I'm putting the finishing touches on > my PIC-controlled perpetual motion machine. :=) I think you've got more chance of over-heating with rage and frustration after realising the US$495 No Mo' Fuel heater is a piece of crap. But maybe that's their Machiavellian plan. "You bought our heater, you got hot without needing fuel, shut the #&^$#& up" I mean, this is laughable "The oil is only added one time for the life of the unit ! Then a zinc rod is placed in the center of the inner drum, in return a safe atomic reaction takes place which creates a strong chain reaction within the atoms of the oil creating heat! We believe that a strong magnetic flux also penetrates the inner metal drum and creates an amazing amount of heat that is safe to use anywhere !" I notice there's no mention for AEC certification or inspection and I'd challenge "amazing". "Amazing" doesn't necessarily mean "large" does it "oil atoms" ? Is oil an element now ? Must be in the revised leftie periodic table, right between "honey" and "joss-stick". Molecules maybe, as if that makes a difference Pons and Fleischmann must be kicking themselves. They buggered about with exotic materials to claim a Cold Fusion success, yet all they needed to do was raid the local auto repair shop for bits Wonder if these guys know you can make an atomic pile out of oil http://www.mv.com/ipusers/zeropoint/ http://www.its.caltech.edu/~dg/fusion.html How long before that bottle of peanut oil in the pantry melts down ? Sorry, am I sounding a little cynical ? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu