At 12:40 PM 2/25/02 -0500, you wrote: >At first I thought "That's no sweat, these are 18C442's (ouch!) so they're >basically trash now anyway" but thinking further, the program burned will >support a different board quite well, so I would like to save the chips if >possible. Beg, borrow or otherwise get ahold of a desoldering station with a good pump and controlled-temperature tip. It will make short work of this. They cost maybe $1000 new. I've had bad experience with the cheaper Weller ones. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com 9/11 United we Stand -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu