>This is probably a silly idea but how about a small coil that picks up stray rf radiation, rectify it >and pump up a low leakage electrolytic, this could be used in conjunction with the battery, Probably work in an urban environment, but the specific project was going to be out in the remote bush. This would cause your scheme to fail in two ways: - 1. Remoteness - likelihood of strong enough RF to get charge into batteries is not high. 2. All that green bush around will absorb RF. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu