"...since I don't have an attitude problem and insist on not using Windows." Someone had to start, huh? No attitude probs -- I have 2 laptops running Win2k (in another room) and the desktop that I will be using for PIC dev is also is configured for dual-boot with Win2k. However, the project I am working on is Linux-based, and I will be writing a bunch of custom code in Linux, include SW to control a hardware device on the parallel port.....all in Linux. With all that, it should be easier to develop my PIC code on the same platform as I will be using for development of the rest of the project. BTW, I tried the NoPPP first but couldn't get it to work. Obvious thought was the whole Win2k control of ports issue, and I don't have a copy of DOS etc laying around. Don't know much about fixing that prob otherwise, but I tried the Tait programmer with pp-0.6 and it worked like a charm. If I could get a reliable/low-cost programmer to work under Win2k, I could be easily swayed into using it. So relax a bit. -Neil. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olin Lathrop" To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]: New guy... > >> > Just got into PICs and found this list. These PIC's are really neat > devices, though I bet you know that already. I've been involved in digital > electronics for quite some time so I do have a headstart. For my planned > projects, I'll be working primarily with the 16F84 and 16F872 chips for now, > and using Linux. > << > > The 16F84 is an old chip. The 16F628 is a superset and costs less. I would > also recommend the 16F876 instead of the 872. In fact, others may disagree > with this, but I would just get the minimum 16F876 to get a price break and > be done with it (assuming this is for hobby use). Lots of other things will > cost you more than the one-time costs of the PICs, even if you don't count > your time. > > >> > The next 2 thing I need to get moving are ... > (1) An assembler that works under Linux. > << > > I hear there are such things out there, but I don't care since I don't have > an attitude problem and insist on not using Windows. The real tools are all > free from Microchip and work very well. I use them for professional PIC > development, although I've had to create a few wrapper programs because of > how I need to do a build and to get some additional features. By the way, > you can have the wrappers for free at http://www.embedinc.com/pic. All in > all, you'll find richer support for PIC development on Windows than on > Linux, and more people here will be able to help you. > > > ******************************************************************** > Olin Lathrop, embedded systems consultant in Littleton Massachusetts > (978) 742-9014, olin@embedinc.com, http://www.embedinc.com > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.