It seems Farnell do not have stock of the 16F77. The computer says yes, but the parts bin says no - on indefinite back order no doubt. A bit like the weather bureau spending millions on computers that tell you it's a fine day today, but looking out the window is another story. -- Best regards Tony mICros http://www.bubblesoftonline.com mailto:sales@bubblesoftonline.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads