> get enough for a thermal pile however :) I've just looked in my "Boys Book Of Proper Names For Things" and would like to amend my suggestion to "thermopile". There's an example of a marine battery using Strontium 90 called a thermopile, but I meant a device using the Seebeck effect of hot/cold junctions. There's an interesting example of a power source for a domestic radio from Russia in the 1930's. It consists of a zig-zag of thermocouple junctions in series arranged in a ring around an oil lamp. Half are in the flame, half are not Could one could find a sufficient differential (outside of a geothermal or volcanic field) in the NZ bush to supply a few volts at uA ? Perhaps a parabolic reflector to concentrate sun light/sun heat for the hot junctions and free air for the cold ones ? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads