Re: Olin's 2nd message on this (won't copy for some reason):- The Japanese E-C-B to American E-B-C pinout translation is messy, you have to rotate it part of a turn and then curve the leads around, and there is risk of the C and B shorting if it is not done carefully. One idea is to put a universal footprint on your PCBs: E B C <--- American (or European B C E, with TO-92 flipped) 0 0 0----x | \ | 0 0 0 | | | x-------x E C B <--- Japanese Then your product can be made with whatever's most available anywhere in the world. (Or just use SOT-23 transistors, they are pretty much standardized- at last!) Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com 9/11 United we Stand -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu