http://www.piclist.com/techref/microchip/devprogs.htm#pocket is the general link and http://www.piclist.com/images/com/bubblesoftonline/www/http/pocket/pocket/po cket_pdf/schematic.gif has the schematic... ...oh boy... This is a good education... there are different pin outs for transistors even? wow... glad I asked. --- James Newton, webmaster piclist.com (former Admin #3) mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 VM 1-208-279-8767 FAX PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com or .org -----Original Message----- From: Spehro Pefhany [mailto:speff@interlog.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:18 To: jn@efplus.com Subject: Re: [PIC]: Transistors for pocket programmer. At 09:41 AM 2/20/02 -0800, you wrote: Hi, James:- The first issue is pinouts.. if you want to retain the same layout, the first P/N has the European pinout, which is mirror-image to the American E-B-C (from front). The latter two P/N's are the standard *Japanese* pinout (E-C-B). Do you have a pointer to the schematic? Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com 9/11 United we Stand -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu