On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Spehro Pefhany wrote: > >Interesting point -- I could then use a MOSFET and PWM to start the lights > >soft, then cut 'em back to a soft glow late at night. > > The triac and phase control will be more efficient, and probably cheaper, > and won't look any different. > > (Two series diode losses + 1 transistor loss) > one triac loss True... but then I get into zero-crossing detection, etc... dimming is not a primary requirement here. I just wanted to avoid using a relay for space & cost reasons (mostly space). If I can get dimming as a side benefit, so much the better. > > Now I realize how > >little I know about light bulbs -- these are the little 8W wedge-base > >landscape light bulbs intended for 12V operation. Is there any problem > >using DC instead of AC, and will running them on a low brightness with PWM > >shorten their life, I wonder? > > Wedge base? Ours are automotive style bayonet base (tail-lamps) > Anyway, the DC thing is pretty much a myth. If they are halogen they > should be operated at full power for a while periodically to get the > envelope temperature up. Easy to program with your PIC. ;-) I don't think they're halogen, will have to look. Well, maybe some are. I have mostly the round path lights and a few spot lights for the bushes, all 8W bulbs but the spots may be halogen. At any rate, they'd be run full power for at least several hours a night. By "DC thing is pretty much a myth" do you mean you think they'll run as well on DC as on AC? I can't imagine why they wouldn't. Dale -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.