At 12:21 PM 2/18/02 -0600, you wrote: >On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Michael Rigby-Jones wrote: > > > But if we are going complex, how about a bridge rectifier in series > with the > > lamp, and a FET or bipolar on the output of the bridge rectifier. > >Interesting point -- I could then use a MOSFET and PWM to start the lights >soft, then cut 'em back to a soft glow late at night. The triac and phase control will be more efficient, and probably cheaper, and won't look any different. (Two series diode losses + 1 transistor loss) > one triac loss > Now I realize how >little I know about light bulbs -- these are the little 8W wedge-base >landscape light bulbs intended for 12V operation. Is there any problem >using DC instead of AC, and will running them on a low brightness with PWM >shorten their life, I wonder? Wedge base? Ours are automotive style bayonet base (tail-lamps) Anyway, the DC thing is pretty much a myth. If they are halogen they should be operated at full power for a while periodically to get the envelope temperature up. Easy to program with your PIC. ;-) Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com 9/11 United we Stand -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.