For anyone wanting to move from bread board to a PCB, I would like to offer some layout services. I do not have a minimum fee, so a simple design will be a simple price. Not to sound desperate or anything, but business is a little slow and I could use some layout work. I can help with the design, PIC programming and even low volume production. Please contact me directly via my work e-mail giles@amtech-eng.com This is the first time for me to advertise like this. If I am violating any rule, please forgive me, let me know, and I will not do it again. Best regards, Giles L. Honeycutt -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.