Hi, try to get the PCad 2000 Lite version. It's easy and has everything you need. Works with 400 components and 4 signal and 2 power layers, what may be what you want. A. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.